THE PENNSYLVANIA LINE. THE ISSUES AFFECTING YOU REVEAL EXPLAINED DISCUSSED. NOW ON WGAL EIGHT IN FOCUS. HELLO, I'M SUSAN SHAPIRO. GOVERNOR JOSH SHAPIRO IS MAKING CHILDREN'S MENTAL HEALTH A PRIORITY. DURING HIS BUDGET ADDRESS, SHAPIRO CALLED FOR A HALF BILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FOR SCHOOLS TO FUND MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELORS ONSITE. I'VE BEEN TO THEIR SCHOOLS. I'VE ASKED THE STUDENTS WHAT THEY NEED AND THEY ARE ALL VERY CLEAR. STUDENTS WANT SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP THEM. THEY WANT PEOPLE TO TALK TO. THE GOVERNOR SAYS 75% OF THE CALLS TO SAFE TO SAY THE STATE'S ANONYMOUS REPORTING SYSTEM FOR VIOLENCE ARE NOT FOR VIOLENCE, BUT OUR CHILDREN REACHING OUT WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES FOR THEMSELVES OR THEIR FRIENDS. WHAT ARE SCHOOLS DOING TO HELP THESE STUDENTS? TONIGHT, WE'LL HEAR FROM A STUDENT TO SCHOOL COUNSELORS AND AN ORGANIZATION THAT TRAINS ADULTS TO RECOGNIZE SYMPTOMS IN CHILDREN WHO NEED HELP AND GIVE THEM SUPPORT. WE'RE PUTTING CHILDREN'S MENTAL HEALTH INFO FOCUS. WE'RE JOINED NOW BY STEVEN SHARP, WHO'S A COUNSELOR IN THE HEMPFIELD SCHOOL DISTRICT IN LANCASTER COUNTY. AND YOU WERE AT THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET ADDRESS, AND HE RECOGNIZED YOU AND THE WORK YOU'RE DOING. WHAT WAS THAT LIKE FOR YOU? IT WAS INCREDIBLY HUMBLING. I WAS JUST HAPPY TO BE THERE, JUST A CHANCE TO REALLY WANT TO HAVE A FRONT ROW VIEW FOR THE EXCITING TIMES AS FAR AS BUDGET ADDRESSES, BUT MORE SO A CHANCE REALLY TO ADVOCATE FOR MY STUDENTS AND HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR STUDENTS COULD GET WHAT THEY NEED. WERE YOU PLEASED WITH WHAT HE IS PROPOSING IN TERMS OF THE MONEY? YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S VERY EXCITING BECAUSE LIKE WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS LIKE A HALF BILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT OVER FIVE YEARS THAT CAN MAKE SOME REAL TANGIBLE RESULTS WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING STUDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO COMPREHENSIVE SCHOOL BASED MENTAL HEALTH, LIKE OUR STUDENTS NEED MORE ACCESS AS A POINT. I MEAN, WE'RE SPENDING PRETTY LONG AND TIRING DAYS TRYING TO SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS WITH A RANGE OF DIFFERENT ACADEMIC NEEDS. EMOTIONAL NEEDS AND SOCIAL NEEDS. REALLY? I READ THAT NEVER BEFORE. MM HMM. WHAT ABOUT THAT? HAS THIS GOTTEN WORSE? YEAH, I MEAN, LIKE, FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, I WOULD SAY, LIKE, I AM SEEING MORE STUDENTS. I'M SEEING MORE STUDENTS WITH A RANGE OF DIFFERENT ISSUES FROM, LIKE, JUST DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY TO EVEN, LIKE, SUICIDE RISK AND EVEN SOMETIMES THOUGHTS OF VIOLENCE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEIR FAMILIES TO GET CONNECTED TO NECESSARY SERVICES, REALLY IS SO THAT ACCESS TO SERVICES OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT. OUR STUDENTS ARE HAVING MORE DIFFICULTY GETTING THINGS AS SIMPLE AS AN OUTPATIENT THERAPY APPOINTMENT, LET ALONE SOMETIMES WHEN THEY NEED MORE ACUTE CARE ON TOP OF THAT. SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT CREATES A DISPROPORTIONATE BURDEN ON SCHOOLS TO ENSURE THAT OUR STUDENTS HAVE SOME OF THAT EARLY INTERVENTION IDENTIFICATION AND CONNECTED TO THE NECESSARY RESOURCES. BECAUSE IF ANY OF US HAVE EVER TRIED TO SET UP AN OUTPATIENT APPOINTMENT FOR ANYTHING, THESE DAYS, IT CAN BE LONG AND DRAWN OUT AND COMPLICATED. BUT WITH OUR UNIQUE TRAINING, PARTICULARLY AS SCHOOL COUNSELORS, WE CAN HELP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY EARLY, EDUCATE BOTH THE STUDENTS AND THE FAMILIES, AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONNECT THEM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO THE NECESSARY SUPPORTS. YOU TOLD ME THE IDEA OF A GUIDANCE COUNSELOR HAS GONE BY THE WAYSIDE. YEAH. SCHOOL COUNSELOR. DOES EVERY SCHOOL HAVE A SCHOOL COUNSELOR, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? NO. EVERY SCHOOL DOES. AND WHEN WE UNDERSTAND THAT PENNSYLVANIA HAS IMPROVED THEIR RATIOS WHEN IT COMES TO STUDENTS HAVING ACCESS TO A SCHOOL COUNSELOR DUE TO THINGS SPECIFICALLY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS LIKE THE CARES AND ESSER FUNDING. SO THIS BLOCK GRANT FUNDING REALLY POINTS TO A CHANCE TO INCREASE ON THOSE NUMBERS. BUT WHEN WE UNDERSTAND STILL THERE ARE PROBABLY ABOUT 800 SCHOOLS LIKE REALLY ONE OUT OF FIVE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE HAVE A SCHOOL COUNSELOR RATIO LIKE 1 TO 500 OR DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A SCHOOL COUNSELOR AT ALL. MM HMM. AND YOU MENTIONED SPEAKING OF THE NUMBERS. SO THERE ASTOUNDING HOW MANY STUDENTS REPORT THAT THEY ARE HAVING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. YEAH. I MEAN, IF WE LOOK TO LIKE THE STUDENTS REPORTS THEMSELVES, LIKE THE YOUTH RISK SURVEYS, WE UNDERSTAND LIKE 40% OF STUDENTS ARE SEEING THAT THEY'RE HAVING SEVERE SADNESS OR HOPELESSNESS FOR MORE THAN TWO WEEKS. LIKE, WE COULD KIND OF CALL THAT DEPRESSION. WE HAVE AN INCREASE OF STUDENTS REPORTING THAT THEY'RE FEELING SUICIDAL SOMETIMES SERIOUSLY CONTEMPLATING SUICIDE. THAT'S LIKE ONE OUT OF TEN STUDENTS. THAT MEANS LIKE IN ANY GIVEN CLASSROOM, IT'S A STUDENT WHO IS IN THEIR DESK DESK IN FRONT OF THEM, BEHIND THEM TO THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT OR IN THE ROW OVER. SOMETHING IS HAPPENING WHERE STUDENTS SOMETIMES ARE EXPERIENCING EVEN MORE DEPRESSION AND MORE SUICIDE RISK THAN WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN PREVIOUS YEARS. NOW, I MAY IMAGINE THERE'S NOT ONE THING WE CAN PINPOINT TO IT, BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK IS DRIVING THIS? WELL, I THINK WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE DRIVE HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOR A WHILE. LIKE WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE WHEN IT COMES TO SUICIDE RISK AND SUICIDE RELATED BEHAVIORS. BUT ABSOLUTELY, WE SAW A JUMP DURING THE PANDEMIC AND WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE SAME STUDENT REPORTS, THINGS LIKE VIOLENCE AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE OVER ALL THOSE KIND OF HAVE BEEN ON THE DECLINE. SO WE BUT THIS THESE PARTS, AS FAR AS STUDENT MENTAL HEALTH, THAT'S A REAL AREA OF CONCERN AND SOME THINGS THAT COULD BE DRIVING AND COULD BE JUST WHAT WE UNDERSTAND FOR MANY OF US, LIKE MANY OF THE ADULTS OUT THERE, IS THAT THE PANDEMIC TOOK ITS TOLL. BUT ACCESS TO CARE AND QUALITY CARE AND AT A TIME THAT COULD BE A SENSITIVE PERIOD THAT CONTINUES TO DECLINE, PARTICULARLY AS WE'VE SEEN INCREASED DEMAND ON THE SYSTEM. YEAH, AS YOU SAY, THAT'S AFFECTING ADULTS, TOO. YEAH. WELL, GIVE US SOME HOPE HERE. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM STUDENTS THAT'S HOPEFUL? WELL, I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS. WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS, LIKE EVEN WITH SOME OF THE STUDENTS SEEING REPORTS LIKE WE'LL DO LIKE A MORGAN STANLEY SURVEY OF STUDENTS, STUDENTS ARE HAVING MORE OPEN, HONEST CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THEIR MENTAL HEALTH WITH EACH OTHER AND WITH ADULTS AND THINGS LIKE HAVING OPEN CONVERSATION THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT REDUCES STIGMA WHEN WE UNDERSTAND, TOO, IS THERE'S A LONG WAY TO GO WHEN IT COMES TO OUR STUDENTS HAVING ACCESS TO SCHOOL COUNSELORS AND OTHER SCHOOL BASED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS. BUT THOSE NUMBERS CONTINUE TO RISE. AND WHEN WE UNDERSTAND, AS I UNDERSTAND, THE SUPPORT AND SERVICES THAT I TRIED TO BRING TO MY STUDENTS, 180 DAYS A YEAR, I'M CONFIDENT THAT THOSE INCREASED ACCESS TO SCHOOL COUNSELORS COULD PROVIDE STUDENTS WITH NOT JUST THE INTERVENTION AND SUPPORT AND THE EARLY IDENTIFICATION, BUT ALSO WITH THE LANGUAGE AND TOOLS TO NAVIGATE THEIR OWN EMOTIONS OR TO BETTER SUPPORT A FRIEND. IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT ELIMINATING THE STIGMA IS CERTAINLY AN IMPORTANT THING. YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK FOR SHARING. COMING UP ON WG YALE EIGHT IN FOCUS. WE'LL SPEAK WITH A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH AND THE CHALLENGES STUDENTS ARE FACING. THIS IS WGBH EIGHT IN FOCUS COVERAGE. YOU CAN COUNT ON WE CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT CHILDREN'S MENTAL HEALTH. MELISSA OSTROWSKI, WHO'S A SCHOOL COUNSELOR AT PENN MANOR HIGH SCHOOL IN LANCASTER COUNTY AND PENN MANOR JUNIOR. KENZIE NOFZIGER, THANKS BOTH OF YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE IT. OF COURSE, KENZIE, WHAT KINDS OF STRESSORS DO YOU THINK YOU AND YOUR FELLOW STUDENTS ARE UNDER THAT ARE AFFECTING YOUR MENTAL HEALTH? I THINK ACADEMIC PRESSURE IS DEFINITELY A LOT, ESPECIALLY AS A JUNIOR, YOU KNOW, GETTING READY FOR COLLEGE AND STARTING THEIR DOWN THOSE LISTS, TAKING THEIR SITES AND STUFF. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING S.A.T. PREP AND ALL THAT STUFF. AND ALSO SPORTS AND STUFF. IT BECOMES A LOT TO JUGGLE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. DO YOU THINK ANYTHING CURRENTLY IS IMPACTING EVEN MORE THINGS? LIKE YOU MENTIONED TO ME EARLIER, SOCIAL MEDIA? YEAH, I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA DEFINITELY HAS A HUGE IMPACT. I MEAN, YOU'RE ALWAYS TOLD THAT, OH, IT'S JUST A HIGHLIGHT REEL OF PEOPLE'S LIVES. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE YOUR FRIENDS POSTING OUT TOGETHER OR PEOPLE ON A VACATION, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS LIKE, OH, I'M NOT THERE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? EVEN IF YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE DOING EVERY NIGHT. AND THERE IS NIGHTS WHEN THEY'RE IN YOUR SHOES, SITTING ON THEIR COUCH AT HOME. BUT IT'S DEFINITELY JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THAT AND IT DEFINITELY TAKES A TOLL ON YOU AFTER A WHILE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM STUDENTS? YES. YOU KNOW, STUDENTS HAVE ALWAYS HAD CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT AM I GOING TO DO AFTER HIGH SCHOOL? WHAT KINDS OF GOALS DO I HAVE FOR MYSELF? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THINGS ARE AMPED UP. THE PAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS, AND PARTICULARLY THE PAST TWO OR THREE YEARS, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF STUDENTS WHO MAY NOT HAVE THE THE FAMILY SUPPORT THAT THEY ONCE HAD OR THEIR FAMILIES ARE GOING THROUGH SOME DIFFICULT TIMES. AND SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF OUTSIDE THINGS THAT ALSO ARE REALLY IMPACTING AND HYPING UP SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY NORMALLY WOULD HAVE HAD. SO WE'VE ALWAYS HAD KIDS THAT ARE WORRIED ABOUT GRADES AND THEN ARE WORKING ON THEIR FUTURE PLANS. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE OTHER THINGS NOW THAT ARE JUST EXACERBATING ALL THAT AND BRINGING THAT TO A HEAD. AND IT'S IT'S HARD FOR IT'S A HARD FOR A 16 YEAR OLD STUDENT TO BALANCE ALL OF THAT. THEY'RE BALANCING THINGS THAT MAY BE ADULTS ARE USED TO BALANCING OR HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE BALANCING OR MAYBE THINGS THEY DON'T EVEN REALLY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU SAID YOURSELF YOU'VE HAD SOME ANXIETY, AND HOW HAS THAT AFFECTED YOU? I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY AFFECTED THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT THINGS IN LIFE AND DEFINITELY LIKE MADE ME WORRY MORE ABOUT MISSING OUT OR LETTING PEOPLE DOWN WITH MY ACADEMICS OR SPORTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER. BUT IT REALLY LIKE ALSO TO A POINT SHOWS YOU THAT LIKE YOU CAN GET THROUGH THOSE HARD THINGS. I USED TO HAVE PANIC ATTACKS ALL THE TIME AND DON'T REALLY ANYMORE. AND IT'S JUST KIND OF A THING THAT I DON'T WANT TO SAY, LEARN TO LIVE WITH, BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS THERE. BUT YOU DO KIND OF JUST ALMOST GET USED TO IT. AND IT'S GREAT THAT BECAUSE OF SOCIAL MEDIA NOW THINGS ARE SO NORMALIZED THAT YOU CAN BE OPEN AND HONEST WITH LIKE THE STRUGGLES YOU'RE GOING THROUGH WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND WITH YOUR PEERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT IS THE GOOD PART OF THIS, THAT PEOPLE ARE MORE WILLING TO TALK ABOUT IT. YEAH, WE DO FIND THAT STUDENTS ARE COMING TO US MORE OPENLY AND MORE FREELY AND FAMILIES ARE COMING TO US SAYING, MY CHILD IS STRUGGLING WITH THIS. AND SO IT OPENS THE CONVERSATION MAYBE EARLIER. THERE'S LESS OF A STIGMA OR WE STILL ARE FIGHTING THAT. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE. BUT JUST TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A BEAT EM CLUBS IN OUR SCHOOLS AND DIFFERENT THINGS, SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO MAY STRUGGLE WITH ANXIETY OR MAYBE DEALING WITH THIS AND THEN WE CAN OFFER THEM SKILLS. EITHER A SCHOOL COUNSELORS OR HELP CONNECT THEM TO OTHER RESOURCES. YEAH, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT IT. HERE'S A STUDENT WHO'S OBVIOUSLY VERY SMART, VERY INVOLVED, BUT YET SHE HAS SOME OF HER OWN CHALLENGES AND STRUGGLES. SO IT'S HAPPENING TO A LOT OF KIDS. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MISPERCEPTIONS IS THAT WE TEND TO GENERALIZE ABOUT DIFFERENT GROUPS OF STUDENTS. AND IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT I WISH WEREN'T TRUE IS MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES ARE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY UPSET OR I GUESS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD RIGHT NOW. BUT WE HAVE WE MAY HAVE STUDENTS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS OR STUDENTS WHOSE FAMILIES ARE GOING THROUGH SOME DIFFICULT CHALLENGE. OR WE MAY HAVE STUDENTS WHO HAVE EVERYTHING GOING FOR THEM, AND THERE'S NO RHYME OR REASON TO IT. BUT ALSO ALL FAMILIES AND ALL ARE PRONE TO IT AND AND CAN EXPERIENCE IT. IT WOULD BE HARD FOR SOMEONE TO SAY THEY DON'T KNOW, MAYBE SOMEONE WHO'S STRUGGLING. AND SO I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO TAKE EACH STUDENT WHERE THEY ARE AND AND LISTEN TO THEM AND AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING US AND FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO WITH THAT SITUATION. STUDENTS WHO ARE STRUGGLING IN THEIR OWN RIGHT AS WELL. YEAH, I DO. I KNOW ME PERSONALLY, JUST BECAUSE OF THE CLASSES THAT I'M IN AND STUFF. A LOT OF MY FRIENDS WILL ALL OF MY CLOSE FRIENDS ARE ALSO HONOR STUDENTS, ALSO STUDENT ATHLETES ALSO INVOLVED IN OTHER CLUBS. AND SO WE DO HAVE VERY SIMILAR STRUGGLES WITH FEAR OF LETTING PEOPLE DOWN AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT I ALSO HAVE FRIENDS FROM BECAUSE I'M IN TWO DIFFERENT SPORTS AND I'M ALSO HEAVILY INVOLVED IN FFA. I KNOW PEOPLE FROM WHO ALSO HAVE VERY DIFFERENT LIFE EXPERIENCES AND I THINK ALSO LIKE NOW, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ACCESS FOR TEENS FOR DRUGS AND ALCOHOL. BUT I THINK NOW WITH THE OPIOID CRISIS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, IT'S DEFINITELY HITTING HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS JUST AS MUCH AS IT'S HITTING ADULTS AND UNFORTUNATE. I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO DROWN THEIR FEELINGS WITH ALCOHOL AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND IT IS UNFORTUNATE, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO COPE. YEAH, WHEN WE TALK WITH KIDS, WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT COPING MECHANISMS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND WE KNOW THAT SOME OF THEM AREN'T POSITIVE. DRUGS AND ALCOHOL ARE A COPING MECHANISM. IT'S JUST NOT A HEALTHY THING AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT STUDENTS TO GO DOWN THAT PATH BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T TYPICALLY TAKE US TO POSITIVE PLACES. SO OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT EARLY ON WHEN WE'RE SEEING THINGS, WHEN FAMILIES COME TO US, WE WANT TO BE THERE AND HELP GET THEM CONNECTED WITH RESOURCES. ALL RIGHT. WELL, LET'S CONTINUE THAT THOUGHT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS AND WHAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WITH FELLOW STUDENTS AND WITH YOUR CHILDREN ABOUT HOW TO COPE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS W EVIL EIGHT IN FOCUS COVERAGE YOU CAN COUNT ON. WE CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION SESSION WITH MELISSA STRANSKY, WHO'S A SCHOOL COUNSELOR OF PENN MANOR HIGH SCHOOL IN LANCASTER COUNTY AND PENN MANOR JUNIOR KENZIE NOFZIGER, AGAIN, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THIS HAS TO BE PUTTING A LOT OF STRESS ON YOU, TOO. YEAH, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL COUNSELORS CERTAINLY HAVE NO SHORTAGE AND OF WORK, BUT WE'RE WE'RE TRAINED IN HELPING STUDENTS WITH CAREER AND ACADEMIC AND PERSONAL SOCIAL ISSUES. AND SO WE TAKE THE STUDENTS WHERE THEY ARRIVE WITH US, AND WE WORK WITH FAMILIES AND STUDENTS TO TRY TO CONNECT THEM WITH RESOURCES AND TRY TO CONNECT THEM WITH SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO REDUCE THOSE BARRIERS TO GETTING BACK OUT THERE IN THE WORLD AND AND LIVING LIFE AND DOING WELL IN SCHOOL. KENZIE, ARE YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS ARE AWARE OF WHAT RESOURCES ARE OUT THERE OR WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF A FRIEND CAME TO YOU AND SAID THEY HAD SUCH AND SUCH A PROBLEM AND WERE, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID, THINKING ABOUT SUICIDE? I THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE AND WE ARE VERY AWARE OF THEM. PENN MANOR DOES A VERY GOOD JOB AT ALL OF OUR ASSEMBLIES MAKING US AWARE OF A VITAL AND SAFE, THE SAFE TO SAY HOTLINE AND THE SCHOOL COUNSELORS ARE ALWAYS THERE, AND I THINK IT DOES GET FORGOTTEN ABOUT AND ALSO LIKE JOKED ABOUT A LOT A LOT OF KIDS, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO DIFFERENTIATE WHEN YOU HEAR A KID WALKING DOWN THE HALLWAY MAKING A JOKE ABOUT KILLING THEMSELVES, A VERY COMMON JOKE THAT'S MADE BETWEEN STUDENTS AND IT'S HARD TO DIFFERENTIATE THAT SOMETIMES. SO I FEEL